Mayflower District Court
#historicbattle-v-state-of-mayflower
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DauuX 2024-11-09 07:13 p.m. CASE INFORMATION**
IN THE MAYFLOWER DISTRICT COURT FOR CLARK COUNTY
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Ex parte HistoricBattle
Trial Type: Civil/Others - Expungement
Judge Assigned: Judge GrandpaGobies - Courtroom 106
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UPCOMING COURT DATES
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11/9 - Filed with Clerk
11/9 - Docketed to Judge Gran...
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11/9 - Filed with Clerk
11/9 - Docketed to Judge Gran...
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ExpunctionDauuX 2024-11-09 07:13 p.m.@HistoricBattle @Toby
DauuX 2024-11-09 07:14 p.m.
Docketed to Judge GrandpaGobies, assigned to @waves
waves 2024-11-09 07:14 p.m.
Department of Justice is invited to submit a statement within 24 hours of this message. @Attorney General's Office
Toby 2024-11-09 07:15 p.m.
They're gonna get mad that you pinged them
TobyThey're gonna get mad that you pinged them
HistoricBattle 2024-11-09 07:23 p.m.
I’m pretty mad
DauuX 2024-11-09 07:25 p.m.@Brit added
Brit 2024-11-09 07:26 p.m.
Thank you Mr Clerk
Brit 2024-11-09 07:27 p.m.@waves You're a developer correct?
Britwaves 2024-11-09 07:27 p.m.
Yes, but for the purposes of this case I am only the presiding Judge
wavesYes, but for the purposes of this case I am only the presiding Judge
Brit 2024-11-09 07:28 p.m.
Yeah sure
Brit 2024-11-09 07:28 p.m.
Can LEO guns drop upon death?
Brit 2024-11-09 07:28 p.m.
Is it possible to your knowledge
waves 2024-11-09 07:28 p.m.
No, they cannot. Some MNG equipment might, but everything from the regular LEO should not drop
Brit 2024-11-09 07:29 p.m.@DauuX Can you please send the statement of reasoning attached to the expungement petition here?
DauuX 2024-11-09 07:30 p.m.
What is your statement of reasoning?
I’ve come before this honourable court today to request an expungement of my criminal record. I was arrested on the 07/10/2024 for the various crimes as depicted before, I was a tourist just new to the game unaware of the laws of the land I fell into legal trouble after witnessing an officer killed, picking up the weapon of the officer. Not only was it a stupid decision, but this split second decision has left an everlasting stain on my character. I’ve deeply reflected over the past weeks about my previous actions, ensuring not to make rash decisions. I hope one day to be able to serve the community of mayflower, and with this criminal record I am unable to enlist as a serving member of law enforcement.
DauuXBrit 2024-11-09 07:31 p.m.
Can you send the arrest report?
Brit 2024-11-09 07:31 p.m.
(Please)
DauuX 2024-11-09 07:31 p.m.
I'm on phone
Brit 2024-11-09 07:35 p.m. 
DauuXBrit 2024-11-09 07:36 p.m.
" after witnessing an officer killed, picking up the weapon of the officer ."
Brit 2024-11-09 07:45 p.m.
Therefore one of two things must be true:
A. The petitioner picked up the officers firearm, which your honour has said is mechanically impossible, and the arrest is false. In which case this petition ought to be denied as this is the improper forum for that to be decided, see Mayfl. R. Lim. 2.
B. The petitoner has mislead the Court in their statement of reasoning and failed to take accountability for their actions. In which case this petition ought to be denied, using your prescribed judicial discretion under Mayfl. R. Lim. 8(1)(b).
A. The petitioner picked up the officers firearm, which your honour has said is mechanically impossible, and the arrest is false. In which case this petition ought to be denied as this is the improper forum for that to be decided, see Mayfl. R. Lim. 2.
B. The petitoner has mislead the Court in their statement of reasoning and failed to take accountability for their actions. In which case this petition ought to be denied, using your prescribed judicial discretion under Mayfl. R. Lim. 8(1)(b).
Brit 2024-11-09 07:47 p.m.@waves The State is firmly opposed to the granting of this petition.
waves 2024-11-09 07:57 p.m.
Thank you counsellor. The Petitioner may submit a response to this if they wish, otherwise we will proceed @HistoricBattle
waves 2024-11-09 08:13 p.m.
Oh, sorry, are you counsel for the Petitioner? @Toby
waves 2024-11-09 08:13 p.m.
Perhaps I should have read the card
wavesOh, sorry, are you counsel for the Petitioner? @Toby
Toby 2024-11-09 08:14 p.m.
Yes, just writing the response now
waves 2024-11-09 08:14 p.m.
Sounds good thanks so much.
Toby 2024-11-09 08:14 p.m.
No worries
Toby 2024-11-09 08:15 p.m.
Your honor, mistakes were made in my clients statement. When he wrote firearm he was referring to the taser he picked up. As this was some time ago, my client can only recall picking up a taser, cartridges and some cash from an officer that was killed by a 3rd party. As my client is British, and under UK Law a taser is classed as a firearm, he was under the assumption that it was the same here, hence why he called it a firearm. We are not contesting the arrest itself or the grounds of the arrest so it ought not be denied for improper forum. My client is asking this court to grant him a second chance so he can become a productive member of society, and right the wrongs that he has done.
TobyYour honor, mistakes were made in my clients statement. When he wrote firearm he was referring to the taser he picked up. As this was some time ago, my client can only recall picki...
Brit 2024-11-09 08:17 p.m.
What's the professional background of your client in real life?
BritWhat's the professional background of your client in real life?
Toby 2024-11-09 08:18 p.m.
I don't know, why?
Toby 2024-11-09 08:21 p.m.@waves my client is ready to proceed
TobyI don't know, why?
Brit 2024-11-09 08:24 p.m.
A. The whole "firearm" thing isn't common knowledge
B. It's actually a prohibited weapons as per Section Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968.
B. It's actually a prohibited weapons as per Section Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968.
Brit 2024-11-09 08:25 p.m.
Also he can't be up a taser either so what you're saying is equally flawed
Brit 2024-11-09 08:25 p.m.
Unless he's implying he was dealt by an officer which is an entirely separate issue
BritAlso he can't be up a taser either so what you're saying is equally flawed
Brit 2024-11-09 08:27 p.m.
pick up* - tasers don't drop upon death as the judge has confirmed
Toby 2024-11-09 08:35 p.m.
My client is adamant that it was a taser he picked up. As this took place in October, the systems could've changed and at the time it was possibly a bug that was patched. But my client stands on the fact that he is certain it was a taser he picked up
Toby 2024-11-09 08:35 p.m.
Along side the cartridges, etc
Toby 2024-11-09 08:41 p.m.
I'm also going to sleep now, as it's 01:41 so any responses, etc will be answered in the morning
Brit 2024-11-09 08:48 p.m.
So then you contend the arrest report is inaccurate as it never mentions a taser?
BritSo then you contend the arrest report is inaccurate as it never mentions a taser?
Toby 2024-11-10 09:18 a.m.
We're not contending anything, you are. All my client wants is to be given a second chance to become a productive member of society, as he made a mistake when he was a tourist. All he asks is that he's granted this petition so he can become that productive member of society. You're trying to have this petition denied because it seems clear that you think a habeas petition ought to be filed instead or have it denied because he may or may not have tripped up on his statement. You're nitpicking at my clients statement which was made out of the little memory he has on the incident due to it occurring back in October
Toby 2024-11-10 09:20 a.m.
My client has expressed his guilt and remorse for what happened in his statement. It should not be denied because of some small technicality, frankly there's no need for it
Brit 2024-11-10 10:45 a.m.
It's not a small technicality It's a factually incorrect statement of reasoning.
Brit 2024-11-10 10:51 a.m.
I'm not nitpicking at all at first he said he picked up a firearm now you contend he's certain he picked up a taser when the arrest report says neither of these things.
How can you expect the Court to believe your client is taking accountability for his actions when he doesn't even know what actions he took.
How can you expect the Court to believe your client is taking accountability for his actions when he doesn't even know what actions he took.
BritI'm not nitpicking at all at first he said he picked up a firearm now you contend he's certain he picked up a taser when the arrest report says neither of these things. How can y...
Toby 2024-11-10 11:08 a.m.
Because there's a difference between intentionally attempting to deceive the court, and getting a few aspects in his statement technically incorrect. My client has taken accountability by him saying "I've deeply reflected over the past weeks about my actions, ensuring not to make rash decisions" he also said "Not only was it a stupid decision but this split second decision has left an everlasting stain on my character" how is that not my client taking accountability for his actions. The incident also took place a good few weeks ago, so I'm not too sure why you're expecting my client to remember every single aspect of the situation
Brit 2024-11-10 11:11 a.m.
He's reflected upon actions but he doesn't actually know which actions he committed yet.
Brit 2024-11-10 11:12 a.m.
I think the issue here is rather self-evident
Toby 2024-11-10 11:14 a.m.
Like I said, this incident happened last month, so of course my client isn't going to have a full memory of what happened. Though there is no use going back and forwards, so I'm going to wait for @waves
Brit 2024-11-10 11:16 a.m.
Well it looks like your client didn't even read the arrest report 
waves 2024-11-10 11:53 a.m.
Thank you counsellors, I believe that should be all for arguments.
waves 2024-11-10 11:53 a.m.
I will read over this when time comes for ruling and will take each of your points into account
Toby 2024-11-10 12:28 p.m.
Thank you, your honor
Brit 2024-11-10 02:19 p.m.
Thank you, your honour
Toby 2024-11-11 04:07 p.m.@waves Hi, how long roughly till we get a ruling?
Tobywaves 2024-11-11 04:08 p.m.
I'm writing it right now
Toby 2024-11-11 04:08 p.m.
Oh great, thank you
waves 2024-11-11 10:30 p.m.
The ruling on this matter can be found here -> https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1279836211703447614/1305735980166418528
CC:@Brit @Toby , @HistoricBattle
CC:
wavesThe ruling on this matter can be found here -> https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1279836211703447614/1305735980166418528 CC: @Brit <@1099452461686726...
HistoricBattle 2024-11-11 10:34 p.m.
Thank you judge, and most importantly thank you @Toby .
HistoricBattle 2024-11-11 10:34 p.m.
wavesThe ruling on this matter can be found here -> https://discord.com/channels/1274202187911790632/1279836211703447614/1305735980166418528 CC: @Brit <@1099452461686726...
Toby 2024-11-12 03:47 a.m.
Thank you, your honor
HistoricBattleThank you judge, and most importantly thank you @Toby .
Toby 2024-11-12 03:52 a.m.
You're welcome
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